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welcome back guys uh to another special

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show here on the disclosure team YouTube

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channel today I'm joined by Christopher

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sharp we are just going to be doing a

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fairly short show just to talk about the

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latest news with the National Defense

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authorization act for fiscal year 2023

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we'll briefly touch upon the delayed UAP

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report so yeah Guys Without further Ado

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please welcome Christopher sharp how you

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doing Chris yeah not too bad thanks

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that's all good it's that time of year

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when we're all getting a little bit

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under the weather but we'll uh we'll

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carry on either way so listen thank you

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so much for joining me here I just

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wanted to sort of talk about the the

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latest as I say with the ndaa

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um I think it's best probably first to

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start back sort of after the

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Congressional hearings that we had

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because we started to hear some language

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coming out fairly quickly after that or

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in the summertime so are you able to

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just bring us up to speed on what that

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yeah yeah excuse me of course so what

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happened was that after the um after the

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hearings it became clear that

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um briefings were happening behind the

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scenes

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um with

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in my opinion whistleblowers because

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what happened in summer was that the

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Senate released its intelligence

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authorization at the draft of it

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and that was the one that contained all

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the provisions for the uh the

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whistleblowers

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so it became abundantly clear as the

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source stated to me that that did not

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come from a vacuum there was information

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provided to the Senate intelligence

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committee so that's a language that came

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out and then after that you had an

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explanatory report and that explanatory

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report was basically stating that you

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know

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um there's been an exponential increase

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transmedium objects and they also

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criticized the the Pentagon as well

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um and and that was nothing new really I

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think um case in point was the 2019

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instance in the Pacific

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in that you were told that these were

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unmanned aerial systems but there was no

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information coming at all and provided

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about the origin

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and the people who were kind of

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um controlling controlling these things

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he would have controlled us who were the

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um and that was something that I think

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um got under got on got under their feet

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really and and they were they were not

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very very happy about it so yeah that

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that was really really important I think

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that um intelligence report was yeah

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absolutely and we started to hear

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Whispers as well in the last six months

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about Crash retrieval programs being

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talked about behind the scenes did you

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hear anything much about that from

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sources or or what what can you say

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about that

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yeah they they exist there's historic

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um programs and then there's programs

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that are currently active right now that

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is it's clearly for me becoming a fact

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and not speculation

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clear in terms of what they're trying to

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get at in within the national feds

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authorization act because to make it

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clear that intelligence operation

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authorization has now been coupled with

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the national provincial organization act

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whereas last year there were two

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separate separate things

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um so yeah it makes it clear basically

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that um it compels

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reporting of

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any programs that have not explicitly

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been reported to the key Congressman

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like chairs on the key committees like

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the intelligence committees and the

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armed services committees so what it's

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basically stay stating is that

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if if you've got knowledge or if you've

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been working on these these programs

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then you can break your non-disclosure

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agreement

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um you know even if it's you can break

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an executive order as well

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and and you know the atomic

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um energy Act and the secrecy kind of

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like binded by that

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um you can break those kind of things

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to report that knowledge to Arrow

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so that's something the legislation

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makes clear that you can now report that

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information and then once Arrow has

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validated that information

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then they report it to the Secretary of

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Defense that they're no longer reporting

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to Moltres office that's gone which is

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great news because it was full of Gary

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Reed allies so now they're going

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straight to the deputy and Secretary of

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office and reporting to them so then

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what happens is the secretary of defense

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will then have 72 hours to report that

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information to the the relevant

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committees

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so this is really really big stuff this

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is really really kind of like firm firm

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language here and because it now falls

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on the Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin

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you know there's there's more

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accountability to this now

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yeah one thing I think we heard when

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Arrow was first formed there was another

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group The Arrow exec which I think is

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some kind of oversight board

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um what can you say about that because I

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think Moultrie was even attached to that

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in some way

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legislated

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um last year so that was when the dod

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and odni came out with arrow in what AI

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MSG as it was known then in the first

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place and um yeah they were really kind

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of like the controllers of this and

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um I think that the main guy like on in

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this group at the time was Gary Reed

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which is someone you don't want heading

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up this kind of like effort really and

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better to be clear that at that time

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um there was no Kirkpatrick there was no

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director of The Office

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um so I mean I've got limited knowledge

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in terms of like the ins and outs and

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workings of that

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um but I I do know that I was hoping

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that Gary Reed was involved in he was

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the last person he wanted wanted

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involved but now a lot of the

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accountability falls on Kirkpatrick yeah

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and you mentioned him you know we know

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he's been heading the arrow group

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um but we also saw earlier in the year

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job vacancies coming up being advertised

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for positions within arrow and

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now been filled but you know let's just

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touch upon you know obviously we would

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do the UAP report on October 31st and we

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were all hearing from various sources

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that it was due and it was coming and

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then it then it wasn't do you have any

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latest on that or is it now a case of

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just appears well firstly there was a

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briefings war on that so there was the

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Barnes article in New York Times people

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kind of like um stating that like these

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things these things are mostly Chinese

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drones and stuff but yeah I think that

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story I mean just talking to sources

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from both sides let's say I think that

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peed off everyone yeah you know if you

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don't want this information coming out

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it's PG off because Congress aren't

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happy now and I think it was I think in

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my opinion it was probably made

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abundantly clear that there's a variety

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of explanations possible explanations

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for UAP and they're not all Chinese

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Germans which I think this article kind

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of like failed to convey and um I think

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that really really a lot of people off

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and then obviously Congress has got paid

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off as well now because

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if you're on the other side and you want

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more transparency then that's not good

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news and then you had another report

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from Josh Boswell my co-writer from the

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daily mail and just someone from the

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intelligence Community was just stating

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to him that look

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these are not all Chinese drones these

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things are strange and you know they

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include like triangles

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um we've seen orbs

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um in the Middle East from Reaper drones

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they're like that was making abundantly

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clear that we're not seeing that so

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firstly let's establish it from that

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base that we know that there is some

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kind of a civil war

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um within the intelligence community and

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the dod regarding this

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so now we have a situation where we know

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um about this situation and there's a

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delay in the report now

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we we know from looking at the last UAP

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report that there's a lot of

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um consultation and coordination occurs

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into these reports so what happens is

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that our own in this instance provides

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like the data and allowance system what

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a report based on all this stuff being

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given by arrow and they need to

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coordinate as well with other agencies

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as well to check boxes basically

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um so that can conclude the um the CIA

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it could include the natural geospatial

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intelligence agency and all all sorts of

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things basically so there's a lot that

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goes on and also during this yes it is

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correct it is correct that Congress has

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not seeing this in terms it's not being

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delivered to compress yet so I want to

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make that abundantly clear but also

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there is something called the legisl

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there's like a legislative affairs kind

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of like arm to the odni which is

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basically it is it's um liaison office

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with um with Congress so there will be a

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con there will be constant back and

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forth during this process between

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um Congressional staffers and the odni

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regarding this report

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um and that's just to ensure basically

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that it's uh it's meeting the intent of

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so there's all these things going on and

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it's bureaucracy as normal yes that that

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is something and I know who they're

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having conversations with as well we all

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at the end of the day there may be

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knowing what I know and what others know

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about the background of this you can't

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say for sure what is causing

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to delay and it could be something like

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arrow is basically not essentially

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meeting the requirements of the intent

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spelled out in the last National Defense

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authorization I'd say it could be

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something after that we know that Aria's

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been very very poorly staffed but um

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but I think that's what usually happens

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when you're um when there's a big vacuum

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and um

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the impression I'm getting it no one has

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an idea what's going on

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and I think that that's the only thing I

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have can be quite sure of but I did

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think it was going to come out in in

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December that came from very very good

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knowledge

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it wasn't

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um but obviously that failed as well and

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that's just kind of like really spelled

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out to me that no one knows what is

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going on yeah and that's the thing like

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you know it's all always good to have

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sources who may be sort of on the inside

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or know certain things but it does get

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to a point where nobody seems to know

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like like you just said I mean I had a

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conversation with someone the other day

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close to to Sean Kirkpatrick and I think

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the

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little

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bits of communication between different

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uh agencies in that to get this thing

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together so I think you know it we

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shouldn't be that surprised that it's

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delayed and you know we've heard a lot

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of conspiracies about people saying

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they're just trying to obfuscate the

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truth and maybe it is just the fact that

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it's just a lot of work that needs to be

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done and due to the lack of Staff as you

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say it could just be that

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you know if it's going to be done

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properly it's going to take a lot longer

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than than was a was given so the one

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thing I will ask is are there going to

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be any sort of ramifications or

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repercussions for it being delayed and

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no not not I can see currently I can see

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Congress being frustrated because yeah

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as a politician when people airing their

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frustrations about a delay then that's

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going to inevitably cause frustration

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with Congress as well but insofar as

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legislation I mean it's difficult

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stating that this one bit of legislation

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like you know Kirkpatrick having to

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report directly to the Secretary of

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Defense now it's difficult saying where

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that came from we all know that there's

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been lots of

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big issues with that former office that

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was based in a USD ins so we know that

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but it's difficult to say oh that was

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down to this reason it was down for that

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reason

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um

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but I also know as well that Kurt

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Patrick may have got his way on on some

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things as well in terms of the legis the

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finalized legislation so

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um I mean there's no clear sign right

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now I can see that there's any

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ramifications it looks like now we're in

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a situation where this new finalized

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language is kind of like really putting

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putting the pressure on Kirkpatrick and

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if he doesn't deliver so he's got to

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deliver like a report for instance which

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is going to be with the accounting

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office in previous

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legislation but now he's going to do it

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in terms of finding the information from

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19 1945 so I mean if he doesn't kind of

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like deliver on that I mean he can be

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squeezed and um yeah the onus is really

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on him now yeah absolutely now one thing

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I wanted to do is take a look at um well

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on Twitter if you people should be aware

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of Douglas Dean Johnson who regularly

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covers this kind of aspect of the the

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subject and he recently wrote an article

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which I wanted to share and just discuss

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couple of the points that that he

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mentioned so if I just bring that up on

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screen and we'll just talk through it a

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little bit uh here we go so it is a

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preliminary look at the UAP related

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provisions of the final proposed fiscal

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year 2023 National Defense authorization

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act H.R 7776

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um and if I just scroll down

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with me

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he says the house passed Bill contains

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two main UAP related Provisions found in

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three sections of the bill so the first

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one we wanted to talk about here was

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Bill section 1673 and I'll just read

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this this first paragraph It's a secure

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method for authorized reporting Safe

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Harbor or UAP whistleblower provisions

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so this section creates a secure method

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by which current or former government

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employees or contractors can submit UAP

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related information to the Pentagon UAP

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office and through the office reach also

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the Congressional armed services and

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intelligence committees so that's pretty

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big government employees former and

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contractors so does that sort of come

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into

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contractors with private organizations

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you know what does that say to you

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um yeah yeah I I think if you're

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listening to a lot of the the chatter

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about this thing it's been with

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these defense contractors like you're

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lockheeds and stuff for a very very long

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time they get given stats okay we're

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gonna give you this you try and work it

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out and it may be that we've got a

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situation at the moment where they're

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finding it very very difficult to

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reverse engineer this technology

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um but but yeah that tells me that's

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explicit now that um

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that there is involvement with um with

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government

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um contractors within that so

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yeah I think that that's very very

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important and I think it's something

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that people

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um people really really

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um need to keep an eye on I think in

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terms of yeah

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and the one thing I will say is that

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when we hear the word whistleblower and

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especially associated with the UFO

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subject is that a lot of people think

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that if someone Blows the Whistle it's

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going to become public knowledge what

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they were involved with whereas in this

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instant this is not

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going to be public this is giving them

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the option

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uh the aim to report behind the scenes

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behind closed doors enclosed briefings

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to the armed services and intelligence

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committees this is not suddenly going to

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blow the subject wide open publicly and

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I just wanted to sort of you know temper

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expectations with that

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yes I can see the next

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big movement

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in terms of advocacy let's say within

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the UFO Community is to actually

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is an effort to Galvanize people to

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pressurize Congress to make as much

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information public as possible I mean in

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terms of Congress this is all trying to

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be more transparent about the way this

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Topic's been treated because it's not

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only being hidden from us it's also been

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hidden from Congress as well yeah so

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I think there will have to be some give

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in terms of this in terms of kind of

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like letting some of that information go

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and go about declassifying it which may

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be down to getting the president

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involved for example

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but um but I think we we may we may see

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that and um I was thinking just the

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other day that you know a lot of people

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say it might not come out the way you

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think it will it may not be the

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president United States uh making a

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speech whatever but it could do I mean

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when you when you had the James Webb

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Telescope and its first images being

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browned you know you had a um you had a

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big event with the president showing off

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the [\h__\h] and stuff like that so it's

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hard to imagine that any kind of talk

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about non-human intelligence may not

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involve the president getting involved

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or they're saying that Joe Biden does

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have a lot on his hands at the moment as

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well but it'd be interesting seeing

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whether that might play out but I think

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that this is the next big effort trying

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to get Congress to share the information

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with the public yeah absolutely now just

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going back to the article here one thing

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that under the new bill the office will

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retain its current name so we're not

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going to see another acronym coming in

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so Arrow the old domain anomalies

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resolution office will

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um remain which is which is good because

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it's a lot more palatable and it gets to

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keep its Twitter page

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there you go and let's hope they tweet a

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little bit more because they've been a

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bit quiet on that front so

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yeah moving down

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I don't want to go through it all but I

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think they were the key there was a few

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changes in the language but from the uh

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intelligence authorization act before it

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made its way into the ndaa and I think

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that's really what what covers here what

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I'll do as well for anybody watching or

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listening is in the description on

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YouTube I will pop a link to to Douglas

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Dean Johnson's article that we're

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looking through because in the article

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as well is a PDF a link to a PDF of the

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33 pages of Provisions that you can read

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all relating to the UAP subject

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um yeah I think like the main thing is

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that this legislation compels the dod

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intelligence Community to fully

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cooperate and support the activities of

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Arrow

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um you know which does include

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um

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providing let's say

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um you know people from other offices

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um

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U.S Navy for instance to be co-located

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within Arrow

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um and to share any non-to agreement any

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non-disclosure agreements as well

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related to UAP to provide scientific and

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technical support you know even capable

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capabilities to respond to to incidents

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because that's going to be one of the

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main things as well that you know you do

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incorporations of these other kind of um

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departments and offices once a new event

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emerges and yeah that'd be really

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important yeah absolutely I mean like

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we're reading this article and this is

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just you know the provisions that

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Douglas Dean Johnson thought were

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important but you know this like I said

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there's 33 pages of it so you know if

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someone really wants to sort of dig in

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themselves then then you know check out

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all of all of that PDF

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um but this part here the general

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revisions pertaining to the Pentagon UAP

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office arrow and its operations and

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arrow conducted historical called

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reports on government involvement in UAP

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so that's that's huge and just moving

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down here as well I just noticed that

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what you said it the new bill

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significantly elevates the status of the

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arrow program so like you said reporting

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directly to the deputy secretary of

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defense and the principal deputy

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director of National Intelligence

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correct

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yeah I mean this is this is really

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pushing the conversation forward

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compared to last year and I think that

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that in itself is something that we

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should look at in a positive light

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I think so as well I think it's clear

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now that the game's kind of up and I

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think

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information is kind of is coming out and

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I think that

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there's important conversations

559
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:09,720
happening and yeah but I think I just

560
00:22:14,450 --> 00:22:11,280
want to say I think next year is going

561
00:22:16,190 --> 00:22:14,460
to be a really really big year and

562
00:22:17,649 --> 00:22:16,200
um it'll be a lot of exciting things

563
00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:17,659
happening

564
00:22:21,890 --> 00:22:20,280
so yeah

565
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:21,900
it's gonna it's gonna be really exciting

566
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:24,120
man and um yeah there will be some stuff

567
00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:26,159
that I'm going to put out as well about

568
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:27,720
this

569
00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:29,039
um which you might be aware of already

570
00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:31,380
so it's gonna be it's gonna be great man

571
00:22:38,510 --> 00:22:35,580
it's yeah 1945 is very very important

572
00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:38,520
because that is the date of the alleged

573
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,520
Trinity crash and that was at the

574
00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:43,200
Trinity kind of like

575
00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:45,360
um test sites where they were launching

576
00:22:49,549 --> 00:22:47,460
the atomic bombs we

577
00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:49,559
we know let's say that there is some

578
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:51,480
kind of link between atomic bombs going

579
00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:54,000
off and the electro electromagnetic

580
00:22:58,490 --> 00:22:56,820
pulse and bringing down these things so

581
00:23:01,130 --> 00:22:58,500
I think I think that's that's really

582
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:01,140
important and then yeah seven which is

583
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:02,400
why that language was there before in

584
00:23:06,890 --> 00:23:05,039
1947 that's when you had all these

585
00:23:10,130 --> 00:23:06,900
um new agencies and offices created and

586
00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:10,140
stuff so it's easy to kind of get a um

587
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:13,140
it's easy to kind of like get a paper

588
00:23:17,690 --> 00:23:15,600
trail go back to them

589
00:23:20,090 --> 00:23:17,700
yeah absolutely and I'll just read this

590
00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:20,100
about that pertains to the January 1st

591
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:22,620
1945 date it says the report is to

592
00:23:27,409 --> 00:23:25,440
include a compilation an itemization of

593
00:23:28,669 --> 00:23:27,419
the key historical record of the

594
00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:28,679
involvement of the intelligence

595
00:23:33,529 --> 00:23:31,080
Community with unidentified anomalous

596
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,539
phenomena including any program or

597
00:23:37,490 --> 00:23:35,520
activity that was protected by

598
00:23:39,169 --> 00:23:37,500
restricted access and has not been

599
00:23:40,190 --> 00:23:39,179
explicitly and clearly reported to

600
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:40,200
Congress

601
00:23:44,570 --> 00:23:42,480
than successful or unsuccessful efforts

602
00:23:46,850 --> 00:23:44,580
to identify and track unidentified

603
00:23:48,649 --> 00:23:46,860
anomalous phenomena and finally any

604
00:23:51,470 --> 00:23:48,659
efforts to obfuscate and manipulate

605
00:23:53,450 --> 00:23:51,480
public opinion hide or otherwise provide

606
00:23:56,210 --> 00:23:53,460
incorrect unclassified or classified

607
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,220
information about unidentified anomalous

608
00:24:00,409 --> 00:23:58,559
phenomena or related activities so

609
00:24:02,029 --> 00:24:00,419
that's huge and the one thing as well is

610
00:24:04,850 --> 00:24:02,039
that they've obviously changed the the

611
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,860
the name from an identified aerial

612
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,720
phenomena to the unidentified anomalous

613
00:24:10,190 --> 00:24:08,400
phenomena which I think is is fitting

614
00:24:13,130 --> 00:24:10,200
and works better

615
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:13,140
Vinnie that is so important you that is

616
00:24:17,330 --> 00:24:15,600
so important what you just register yes

617
00:24:18,770 --> 00:24:17,340
firstly the name team is very very

618
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,780
important because before you had a

619
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,640
situation where

620
00:24:24,049 --> 00:24:22,320
um the airports are saying it's in space

621
00:24:25,730 --> 00:24:24,059
so we don't have to deal with it and the

622
00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:25,740
space of also saying oh it's in the air

623
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:27,059
or it's in the oceans we don't have to

624
00:24:32,090 --> 00:24:28,799
deal with it so actually kind of like

625
00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:32,100
taking anything to do of that out of the

626
00:24:35,690 --> 00:24:34,440
equation and and there's definitions

627
00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:35,700
there anyway

628
00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:37,260
um inside

629
00:24:40,909 --> 00:24:38,880
um the language basically just states

630
00:24:43,070 --> 00:24:40,919
that we're dealing with trans medium

631
00:24:45,049 --> 00:24:43,080
stuff that can go through space air and

632
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:45,059
water so it's staring away but it makes

633
00:24:48,110 --> 00:24:46,799
it very very difficult now the airports

634
00:24:50,690 --> 00:24:48,120
to turn around and give that excuse so

635
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:50,700
that's really important firstly

636
00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:54,240
um and and the other thing I think that

637
00:24:59,450 --> 00:24:56,520
there was some some confusion before

638
00:25:02,029 --> 00:24:59,460
saying oh no so that means if I'm in a

639
00:25:03,950 --> 00:25:02,039
special Access program I can't come

640
00:25:05,450 --> 00:25:03,960
forward and blah blah blah and people

641
00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:05,460
interpret that language wrong but no no

642
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:07,080
it's not like that it's like if you're

643
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:09,120
on a special Access program that has not

644
00:25:15,409 --> 00:25:13,200
been clearly reported to Congress or

645
00:25:17,270 --> 00:25:15,419
come past my eyes Access program then

646
00:25:19,690 --> 00:25:17,280
that's when you can come out I mean it

647
00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:19,700
could even be something whereby

648
00:25:25,730 --> 00:25:23,100
that programs communicated with Congress

649
00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:25,740
before and say no no we're we're doing X

650
00:25:29,330 --> 00:25:28,260
Y and Z nothing to do uaps but they've

651
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:29,340
not made it clear that they are doing

652
00:25:33,649 --> 00:25:31,919
something with UOB see that would then

653
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:33,659
allow that person to come forward

654
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,580
because it's clear that

655
00:25:39,649 --> 00:25:37,200
you know Congress didn't have knowledge

656
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:39,659
about about that program so so that's

657
00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:42,240
really important and then in terms of

658
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,559
um the language you're reading as well

659
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:45,840
that you can't mislead the public and

660
00:25:51,769 --> 00:25:48,000
what not about the city that's really

661
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,779
important so I mean I I think now you're

662
00:25:55,970 --> 00:25:53,760
going to see perhaps a different tone

663
00:25:57,950 --> 00:25:55,980
taken from public affairs office in the

664
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:57,960
pentagon look when it comes down to

665
00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:00,240
season goth like she's always been

666
00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:02,760
really really good to me yeah because

667
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:05,220
she's provided me with exclusive

668
00:26:11,450 --> 00:26:07,980
information uh that no one else has got

669
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:11,460
so for instance Lou working

670
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,960
um with space force that was really

671
00:26:18,289 --> 00:26:14,640
important and student have to do that

672
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,299
and so but I mean if there are obesity

673
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:20,640
allegations against Sue that we're aware

674
00:26:24,890 --> 00:26:22,440
of so

675
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:24,900
it could be that you know

676
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:25,740
um

677
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:27,840
it could be that

678
00:26:31,010 --> 00:26:28,559
um

679
00:26:33,769 --> 00:26:31,020
that they may change their tune on some

680
00:26:35,870 --> 00:26:33,779
of these things it could be that

681
00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:35,880
um the report is what would be important

682
00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:37,260
to the report as well once that

683
00:26:41,570 --> 00:26:39,900
legislation comes through because once

684
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:41,580
that legislation comes through let's say

685
00:26:46,669 --> 00:26:44,580
that let's say the

686
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,679
um defense officials intelligence

687
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:48,480
commission officials do have knowledge

688
00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:50,400
now that these programs exist and

689
00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:52,500
verified information which from my

690
00:26:56,269 --> 00:26:54,000
understanding is correct

691
00:26:58,730 --> 00:26:56,279
then to kind of like put out a report

692
00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:58,740
and then pretend to some extent you

693
00:27:02,090 --> 00:27:00,179
don't know what these are still and

694
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,100
still using the Chinese and stuff like

695
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,320
that pretending that I aren't

696
00:27:10,850 --> 00:27:07,440
truly like strange things flying in our

697
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:10,860
skies our oceans over atmosphere then

698
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:13,440
that would may you could potentially

699
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:16,799
argue that is misleading the public so I

700
00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:19,200
think that's really promising as well in

701
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,720
terms of transparency transparency

702
00:27:25,970 --> 00:27:23,760
because Congress people want to live up

703
00:27:27,169 --> 00:27:25,980
to that as well so any comments they

704
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:27,179
make

705
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:29,700
will they'll be they'll have to be

706
00:27:33,049 --> 00:27:31,260
really careful they can't a congressman

707
00:27:34,430 --> 00:27:33,059
can't just go oh these are all Chinese

708
00:27:36,049 --> 00:27:34,440
drones

709
00:27:38,029 --> 00:27:36,059
can't say that if it's not true because

710
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:38,039
that would be misleading people so that

711
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:40,559
is really really important for any new

712
00:27:45,890 --> 00:27:43,919
briefings reports comments made

713
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:45,900
so that that

714
00:27:50,090 --> 00:27:48,480
yeah that's great excellent and and we

715
00:27:51,769 --> 00:27:50,100
like we said this has passed through the

716
00:27:53,450 --> 00:27:51,779
House of Representatives now so it's

717
00:27:54,649 --> 00:27:53,460
we're waiting for it to go into the

718
00:27:57,169 --> 00:27:54,659
Senate and then

719
00:27:58,669 --> 00:27:57,179
if it passes there then it's just signed

720
00:28:00,350 --> 00:27:58,679
into law by the president if I'm right

721
00:28:02,990 --> 00:28:00,360
and you know we saw that happen last

722
00:28:06,649 --> 00:28:03,000
year uh so do you think that's going to

723
00:28:11,630 --> 00:28:08,930
yes from my understanding there was some

724
00:28:14,810 --> 00:28:11,640
uncertainty in terms of

725
00:28:16,490 --> 00:28:14,820
um the house because you've got a new um

726
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,500
a new leader of the house coming in he's

727
00:28:20,510 --> 00:28:18,240
a republican he would threatened to kind

728
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,520
of like hold it up so that was something

729
00:28:24,890 --> 00:28:22,320
that was um

730
00:28:27,230 --> 00:28:24,900
it was a threat let's say but now you've

731
00:28:28,430 --> 00:28:27,240
got a situation where Congress which is

732
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,440
kind of like doing the main champion in

733
00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:29,760
terms of the armed services and

734
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:31,740
intelligence committees whoever passing

735
00:28:35,870 --> 00:28:33,120
this through so hopefully this will be a

736
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:35,880
trans a smooth transition and then by

737
00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:38,100
the end so that should hopefully go

738
00:28:43,010 --> 00:28:39,779
through oh gosh in the next two days

739
00:28:44,750 --> 00:28:43,020
because Congress packs up in on the 15th

740
00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:44,760
so yeah hopefully it happens within the

741
00:28:48,649 --> 00:28:47,100
next two days or so and then by the end

742
00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:48,659
you know by the end of the year

743
00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:52,200
hopefully be signed by Biden and um I

744
00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:53,460
doubt he wants to be the first president

745
00:28:58,010 --> 00:28:56,340
for 60 odd years not to pass this

746
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:58,020
legislation especially at a time when

747
00:29:01,730 --> 00:28:59,279
you've got you know

748
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,740
um Global threats Rising so yeah I think

749
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:03,840
that will go that'll go smoothly

750
00:29:08,210 --> 00:29:05,520
smoothly through and let's see what

751
00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:08,220
comes following that absolutely yes it'd

752
00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:10,380
be interesting to to see what comes I

753
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:12,179
think one thing that I'd like to just

754
00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:14,159
touch upon briefly before we end is I

755
00:29:18,769 --> 00:29:15,960
mean I still hear a lot of people saying

756
00:29:20,990 --> 00:29:18,779
we want more hearings we want to hear

757
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:21,000
from more people you know being

758
00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:23,279
subpoenaed to appear in front of

759
00:29:30,169 --> 00:29:27,240
Congress you know barbless under all the

760
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,179
names that we know have worked uh you

761
00:29:35,330 --> 00:29:33,360
know for the government or in your UFO

762
00:29:36,769 --> 00:29:35,340
programs potentially you know do you

763
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:36,779
think that's something that's likely to

764
00:29:40,909 --> 00:29:39,120
happen next year you know we had it once

765
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:40,919
this year do you think we'll see more of

766
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:42,000
it

767
00:29:47,810 --> 00:29:46,320
that following the signing of the

768
00:29:49,970 --> 00:29:47,820
National Defense authorization at the

769
00:29:51,769 --> 00:29:49,980
sources of stating that it's kind of

770
00:29:54,049 --> 00:29:51,779
likely that we might get

771
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:54,059
um hearings immediately after public

772
00:29:56,990 --> 00:29:55,679
hearings as well

773
00:29:58,730 --> 00:29:57,000
um

774
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:58,740
but but I think in terms of the

775
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:01,440
conversations I'm having I mean the I

776
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,260
feel the tone seems to have changed I

777
00:30:10,250 --> 00:30:06,720
think people is confident that

778
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,260
that might happen that that may happen

779
00:30:15,649 --> 00:30:13,200
um so I'm unsure at this moment if that

780
00:30:17,450 --> 00:30:15,659
may happen I think it's a good idea I

781
00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:17,460
think it's a really really good idea I

782
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:19,320
think in terms of a public relations

783
00:30:27,169 --> 00:30:22,880
exercise it would be very good because

784
00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:27,179
in my mind in my mind you can firstly

785
00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:28,620
establish in the public eye that we're

786
00:30:32,029 --> 00:30:30,360
not dealing with

787
00:30:34,010 --> 00:30:32,039
um drones and whatnot because that New

788
00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:34,020
York Times article really did Muddy the

789
00:30:36,769 --> 00:30:35,220
waters

790
00:30:38,029 --> 00:30:36,779
um so you established that verse so you

791
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,039
bring out people like forever like

792
00:30:41,870 --> 00:30:40,559
Dietrich like um Kevin day perhaps or

793
00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:41,880
anyone like that basically just

794
00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:43,620
establish fact that we're not dealing

795
00:30:47,690 --> 00:30:44,820
with this stuff you know even Brian

796
00:30:49,730 --> 00:30:47,700
Gray's be fantastic so I think you would

797
00:30:51,710 --> 00:30:49,740
do that first and any new witnesses as

798
00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:51,720
well that would be able to appear but

799
00:30:54,649 --> 00:30:53,220
mostly you would do people that have

800
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:54,659
been established there in the public eye

801
00:30:58,909 --> 00:30:56,880
anyway at least known to people like us

802
00:31:01,070 --> 00:30:58,919
but not particularly known by a

803
00:31:02,570 --> 00:31:01,080
mainstream more mainstream audience and

804
00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:02,580
I think it makes sense to do that in

805
00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:04,200
January

806
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:05,820
um and you would hope that that would

807
00:31:11,630 --> 00:31:08,880
happen during a time where

808
00:31:13,630 --> 00:31:11,640
um you don't have a Amber Heard and

809
00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:13,640
Johnny Depp court case

810
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:16,380
hogging in the headlines so you do that

811
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,000
and then what you could do is you could

812
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:20,640
then transition it to your elizondos and

813
00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:23,039
melons at that point in terms of public

814
00:31:28,430 --> 00:31:26,220
hearings and um then you would allow

815
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:28,440
them to kind of like transition to this

816
00:31:33,470 --> 00:31:30,899
into like yeah weird stuff is being seen

817
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:33,480
too look there's this stuff happening as

818
00:31:37,310 --> 00:31:34,799
well there's obfuscation behind the

819
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,320
scenes there's an alleged

820
00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:39,120
um retrieval programs which I'm quite

821
00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:41,640
certain do exist so I mean you've got

822
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:43,980
that happening so I mean I'm keeping my

823
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:47,220
um I'm keeping my nice the crown in

824
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:48,600
terms of this

825
00:31:53,630 --> 00:31:50,399
um and you know I was the first to

826
00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:53,640
report the the hearings back in May

827
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,460
um so I'm hoping to kind of like um be

828
00:32:00,350 --> 00:31:57,840
correct on this as well but you know

829
00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:00,360
either way I I view this I I come from

830
00:32:05,149 --> 00:32:03,000
this at a place in terms of look there's

831
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,159
a there's a major major Scandal

832
00:32:10,490 --> 00:32:06,960
happening like

833
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:10,500
huge beyond all imagination in terms of

834
00:32:14,269 --> 00:32:12,840
this UAP stuff and the potential

835
00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:14,279
cover-ups so

836
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I approach the story as a scandal and

837
00:32:20,990 --> 00:32:19,380
what you usually do is you talk to the

838
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:21,000
whistleblowers when it comes to this

839
00:32:24,169 --> 00:32:22,320
kind of stuff you know you talk to

840
00:32:26,930 --> 00:32:24,179
whistleblowers and

841
00:32:28,669 --> 00:32:26,940
I get the impression at the moment that

842
00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:28,679
um let's compare let's let's compare

843
00:32:34,190 --> 00:32:31,799
this to Watergate you know so

844
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:34,200
um you got a situation where like if

845
00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:36,120
this is Watergate you've got the New

846
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:37,919
York Times and defense journalists

847
00:32:45,169 --> 00:32:42,240
talking to um Nixon and his staff

848
00:32:46,970 --> 00:32:45,179
oh there's no cover-up cool we're going

849
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:46,980
to report that to the uh we're gonna

850
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:48,960
report that to the world now no cover-up

851
00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:51,600
Nixon says nothing going on here nothing

852
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:54,120
to see no drama end of story you know

853
00:32:57,889 --> 00:32:55,919
that that that's

854
00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:57,899
that's exactly what it's like with

855
00:33:03,049 --> 00:33:00,659
what's going on with the these reporters

856
00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:03,059
and it's awful it really really is awful

857
00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:05,220
and um I think the other thing I don't

858
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:07,980
like to criticize journalists but I mean

859
00:33:12,889 --> 00:33:10,080
even me being someone who views this as

860
00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:12,899
a scandal at least in my stories I also

861
00:33:17,450 --> 00:33:15,480
allow Susan Goff to have her say as well

862
00:33:19,789 --> 00:33:17,460
well the Pentagon to have their say

863
00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:19,799
so I can balance out and say look he

864
00:33:24,049 --> 00:33:21,600
said she said whatever you know I did

865
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:24,059
that with the US Air Force

866
00:33:27,649 --> 00:33:26,340
um story that I recently did with you

867
00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:27,659
know people being threatened and stuff

868
00:33:31,789 --> 00:33:29,340
in the US Air Force which by the way did

869
00:33:33,169 --> 00:33:31,799
a complete like 360 and how they viewed

870
00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:33,179
this at first they were going to work

871
00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:35,460
for UAP task force for instance and then

872
00:33:39,889 --> 00:33:37,500
all of a sudden they just back down but

873
00:33:42,409 --> 00:33:39,899
that's really really how I see this you

874
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,419
know the New York Times Reporter bans he

875
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,399
could have gone to

876
00:33:48,889 --> 00:33:46,799
have gone to melon just to kind of like

877
00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:48,899
say look this is what's coming out from

878
00:33:51,950 --> 00:33:50,580
my sources

879
00:33:54,409 --> 00:33:51,960
um this is what's coming from the

880
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,419
Pentagon in terms of got off what do you

881
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,880
say like surely you know like Liberation

882
00:34:01,490 --> 00:33:59,039
time is not Holden there's like some

883
00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:01,500
international travel treasure you know

884
00:34:06,289 --> 00:34:03,720
but still I feel that I should you know

885
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:06,299
for my readers provide two sites where

886
00:34:10,369 --> 00:34:07,679
possible it's not always possible I

887
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,379
agree but given the resources and

888
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:12,240
reputation of the New York Times the

889
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:13,740
fact that it couldn't talk to two

890
00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:17,040
separate sources and also went against

891
00:34:22,609 --> 00:34:19,500
the same practice as well and providing

892
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:22,619
Anonymous sources it really re-harkens

893
00:34:29,690 --> 00:34:25,919
that something is going on and look I'm

894
00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:29,700
I I really I realize that Anonymous

895
00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:31,379
sources are really important when

896
00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:33,240
reporting matters of like National

897
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:34,740
Security and stuff you know that's

898
00:34:39,649 --> 00:34:37,440
really important but that makes it even

899
00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:39,659
more important than New York Times case

900
00:34:44,990 --> 00:34:42,240
to speak to someone from the other side

901
00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:45,000
to get another steer on us

902
00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:45,960
um apologies I'm really really

903
00:34:52,070 --> 00:34:48,359
passionate about this Vinnie um that's

904
00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:52,080
fine but yeah that's that is how I feel

905
00:34:56,570 --> 00:34:53,460
about the story

906
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:56,580
um but yeah but what I can say is I

907
00:34:59,630 --> 00:34:57,359
think there's gonna be really really

908
00:35:02,510 --> 00:34:59,640
good stuff coming from both the email

909
00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:02,520
and Liberation times next year I think

910
00:35:07,609 --> 00:35:04,680
there's some great great stuff coming

911
00:35:09,950 --> 00:35:07,619
out and um the year's not even over yet

912
00:35:11,390 --> 00:35:09,960
so who knows what else we can see no

913
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:11,400
absolutely and look forward to seeing

914
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:12,960
what you come out with and I really

915
00:35:16,370 --> 00:35:14,880
appreciate you joining me today and we

916
00:35:18,770 --> 00:35:16,380
we could have sat and gone through all

917
00:35:20,569 --> 00:35:18,780
33 pages but I think we just sort of

918
00:35:22,430 --> 00:35:20,579
wanted to touch upon the key points and

919
00:35:24,829 --> 00:35:22,440
for anybody who does want to delve

920
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,839
deeper like I said the link below

921
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:26,640
um you can find Douglas Dean Johnson's

922
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:29,280
article which links to the 33 pages of

923
00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:32,040
UAP Provisions so please by all means go

924
00:35:36,530 --> 00:35:34,380
and uh dig deep do your own research and

925
00:35:38,690 --> 00:35:36,540
make your own mind of how important you

926
00:35:40,609 --> 00:35:38,700
think it is but thank you again Chris

927
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:40,619
really appreciate it uh thank you to

928
00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:42,240
everyone for watching

929
00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:43,500
um we should have some more shows coming

930
00:35:47,569 --> 00:35:46,200
out between now and Christmas so uh

931
00:35:49,490 --> 00:35:47,579
please make sure you like comment

932
00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:49,500
subscribe and all that good stuff but